I have ran out my sentences. All I can think of to answer you, is already written in article / comments.

I have looked into the games Jane has developed. But, see my point is - if you want to learn Karate, you can’t learn those with video games. If you want to improve strategizing skills of war, you can’t do it with Age of Empires. (Just to mention, I am a big fan of this game & yes, I do believe that this equips us with strategic skills to some extent.) There are better ways, in fact, far better ways. (Karate - go to ‘actual’ classes, solve poverty problems - help poor people build there ‘economics’. I can give you tons of examples of people actually go out & help to combat poverty.)

Thank you. I wish I was 8 again.

I do not wish to undermine the ‘collaborative & socializing skills’ one can get through gaming (virtual world). I merely want to stress the point that we are not trained in gaming as good as in real world problems / environment.

Thank you.

I may respond more later, but now I have to go to a party one of my friends is hosting now. Ciao.
-CLC

1. well she was not talking about gaming as First Person Shooters, if you watched the whole video (which is very likely) you would know which kind of games she is talking about, if you did some research (i am not saying you didn’t) about the games she developed to “save the world” like “Evoke” or “The world without oil” (i think that was its name).
what i mean here is that depending on the game you “game” you will become a “better” person and a “better” human being

2.it is entertaining but not JUST entertaining

3.we have to change the way we see the world so we can solve problems form real life as if they were “virtual problems”

i am pretty busy right now, i will say the rest later

my best regards

-Sebastian

1.”..if we solve climate change we can solve anything..”
- Jane’s presentation’s aim is to demonstrate ‘how’ games can solve these problems. My point here is just that she does not mention anything on those lines - ‘how to solve poverty/climate problems’.
I understand what you want to mean by ‘teamwork’. I agree with games we do develop teamwork to some extent. There are plenty of other much better opportunities with proven & more efficient results. Don’t you think playing football with real player on ground is better than virtual football in that context ?

2. So, what according to you is the purpose of gaming, if not entertainment? You do know, gaming (real or virtual) comes under ‘entertainment industry’ officially?

3. ‘If I get a chance, I would want to marry Angelina Jolie’. That’s how your reasoning was. Anyway, you have done half of my work. You agreed that gamers are ’scared’ of problems of real world. (That’s largely because of difference in real & virtual world.) Why can’t we just focus on those problems of real world, without any simulated environment, & may be we would be able to solve them.

4. See, I don’t have problem acknowledge that gamers do have some skills, patience etc. All I am saying is, they are applicable only to that environment. And so, to develop those skills further or in better way, there are other opportunities where we should concentrate more than gaming.

5. Yes I do understand. She is talking about ‘evolution’. My problem is not with figure 5.93million. Again, she has not demonstrated ‘how’ would we be better human by playing games. Real world’s collaboration would improve us a lot more than virtual world’s collaboration.

6. As I said earlier, don’t you think, if we want to solve problems of real world (poverty, climate etc.) we should know that environment better? Shouldn’t we collaborate, evolve in that environment? Wouldn’t virtual world’s skills be lesser applied to real world than real world’s skills ?

7. All I am saying is, if you are talking about ‘making a better world’ you should actually act in that direction rather than spending your ‘time’ on making a wiki which has limited benefits. Person A spends 5 hours a day for making a wiki about World of Warcraft, & person B spends the same time for making a wiki about Climate change, awareness about poverty & hunger etc. Get the picture?

8. What didn’t you agree with? The economic theory or ‘if a person gets better in virtual world, he is not necessarily better in real world’?

(God, I could have written whole another article on that.:P)Anyway, I am glad you dropped by.

Thank you.

I wrote article to merely point out flaws & ’superficial reasoning’ in Jane’s presentation, which makes it less believable. About my reasoning, I guess I was trying to be sarcastic to Jane’s comments.

About your comments -
1. “You’re relaying your own story…..”.
The point was not just to present my story. Before 10-15 years, there were no PC games, online games, & I believe we all played with ‘real people’. Right? And, didn’t we learn to coordinate, to cooperate, to socialize?

2. “Within the game, there are things that need…..”.
Let’s take a step back & look at the whole presentation. The point Jane wants to make is - ‘we could be better humans & could solve real world problems like climate change, poverty etc.’
I just want to point out the uselessness of this ’second biggest wiki’ for the aforementioned purpose.
I absolutely have no problem with players spending their money on games/ wiki (I believe in materialism). When I mentioned it as ‘a waste’, it was in the given context of the purpose/ problems Jane was addressing. I guess, this even makes it clear that I am not questioning ‘internet’.

Hope I have made myself clear. If not, feel free drop comments.

Thank you,
Alpesh.